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Auckland: Emergency Protest against G20

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Update 12:23pm Thursday Demonstration is defintely on tonight. A protester has died in London. AAP Report | AP/Reuters report

In the event of police riots and mass arrests against the Anti Capitalist protests in London, Socialist Aotearoa will be taking action at the British Consulate in Auckland at 5.30pm. Thursday 2nd April
txt 021 1861450 for updates.

Please spread the word through union, college and group networks. Bring banners and flags.

The British Consulate is located at Level 17
151 Queen Street, Auckland, Auckland 1010.

Comments

Re: Auckland: Emergency Protest against G20

You beauties..

What where huh?

What mass arrests? I got a shock reading this and took a look at indymedia uk and london, but there is nothing about mass arrests and riots..

Re: What where huh?

Ah oops, yes sorry - I have to admit that I had just woken up (europe..) and clearly also couldn't read properly.. so ups for the demo!

Re: Auckland: Emergency Protest against G20

What? Socialist Aotearoa using hyperbole and delusion to attempt to push their shoddy politics? Surely that can't be! Especially after they revealed the secret National-Act Junta that's ruling New Zealand.

Re: Re: Auckland: Emergency Protest against G20

Your disbelief in the prevailing view on the leaders of the movement are diappointing comerade.
I'm sure you'll be one of the first against the wall when the revolution comes!

Re: Auckland: Emergency Protest against G20

I was as quick as anyone to criticise SA's hyperbole over the "Nat/Act junta" but let's be fair here. What they've very clearly said here is that "In the event of" mass arrests, there "will" be a demo. There's nothing hyperbolic about that. They're saying they want to be prepared for a quick response.
Cheers,
John

Re: Re: Auckland: Emergency Protest against G20

On second reading, you're right John. I apologise to SA for this.

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News reports have just started coming in that a protester has been killed in London, but no further details are available, so maybe SA will get their demo after all.
John

Re: Auckland: Emergency Protest against G20

Just confirming the demonstration is defintely on tonight. Please come along and tell all your friends!

Re: Re: Auckland: Emergency Protest against G20

Socialist Aoteroa? How many members do you have? Besides yourself of course and excluding anyone under 18. Shall we be optimistic and say there are 2 (and one of those is your Mum)?

G20-protestor-dies

London

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Re: London

looks like the poo lice are beating ppl up again!

Re: Re: London

But not enough of them. The Police should really put in more effort.

Only one dead and likely through heart attack? Not good enough. These scumbag protestors who are out committing violence at any sniff of a protest should be the first ones "against the wall" to quote the earlier knobber talking about his revolution.

Re: G20-protestor-dies

Looks like a dirty skank to me who most likely deserved it.

Re: Auckland: Emergency Protest against G20

Hey Socialist Aoteroa. What's the address for your house? Can we protest outside yours for being such a tosser? It would be a better reason for a protest than what you are proposing.

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Are you actually saying that you are content to see your hard earned tax dollars being used to prop up a failing system undermined by the irresponsible actions of financial institutions? You are, I'm afraid, a mug.

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You protest and propose nothing to replace? You're like whining children.

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Anon said:
"You protest and propose nothing to replace? You're like whining children."

Anon, you clearly haven't a clue. Go away and find out what the many alternatives people propose are - if you actually care. I certainly won't be wasting my time or energy explaining it to you. You've (anonymously of course) come into this forum to have a wee whine. In the circumstances the "whining children" accusation sounds a little like the pot calling the kettle black.
Cheers,
John

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Oh go on then. Spell out what you propose. I'm very keen to hear. Really I am John.

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Not in the Workers Party like John, but to give a couple of examples as to what groups that took part over the last couple of days propose:

The Anarchist Federation (a UK-wide anarchist-communist federation) has a set of aims & principles which detail their politics, available at http://afed.org.uk/organisation/aims-and-principles.html and if you want more detail, they have published plenty of it, for example in Anarchism: As We See It (http://afed.org.uk/ace/awsi.pdf) and BEYOND RESISTANCE - a Revolutionary Manifesto for the Millennium (http://afed.org.uk/ace/manifest.pdf).

Another group, Liberty & Solidarity (a UK-wide platformist group) have their Community (http://libertyandsolidarity.org/community) and Industrial (http://libertyandsolidarity.org/industry) strategies online to read too.

Or if you'd prefer local groups, rather than those participating in protests against the G20, the group I'm involved with, the Aotearoa Workers Solidarity Movement, have our aims & principles online at http://awsm.org.nz/?page_id=14

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A lot of aims and principles and no real plan from what I can see apart from armed revolution. I imagine a lot of dictatorships and genocides start that way.

Here's what your lads were up to:
http://thefinanser.co.uk/fsclub/2009/04/london-g20-protests-update.html

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"Hey Socialist Aoteroa. What's the address for your house?"

Well being an organization we do not all live in the same house, but if you want to meet up for a chat drop us a line at the usual address.

Be seeing you?

Re: Re: Auckland: Emergency Protest against G20

Don't you think as socialists that you should all live in the same house so that your additional dwellings can be better utilised by the masses?

Couldn't find the address of your organisation. What is it?

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Anon:
"Spell out what you propose. I'm very keen to hear."

No you're not. You started with "It would be a better reason for a protest than what you are proposing", followed by completely contradicting yourself with "You protest and propose nothing to replace?" You hide behind anonymity so no one but you knows if you're also the person who said "The Police should really put in more effort. Only one dead and likely through heart attack? Not good enough" and a whole other string of trolling. If you want to know what people are proposing as an alternative to the shambolic system we are currently subjected to, you can go and find out for yourself. I only responded previously as a means of pointing out that there is no point in attempting to engage in a serious discussion with an anonymous troll. Asher obviously has more tolerance for this sort of thing than I do . . .
Cheers,
John

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You use a lot of words and really say nothing. The websites you point us to are exactly the same. I'm not going to bother myself finding out about what you are offer when the first place you send me to is so lacking in real substance it may as well be a website for jelly. Do you really think there is something in there worth following? I only saw vague ideals and no plans.

I'm anonymous? Yes. Because you lot seem to resort to violence as soon as anyone doesn't agree with you. Perhaps not you, but your group certainly comes across as very unstable.

Are any of your group in Parliament? Have you run for Parliament? You say you are here for the masses or even the massed minorities? Either of those should give you seats from where you can effect change, but I guess it's not as much fun as paintballing buildings, trying to smash a copper or destroying a bank?

Re: Auckland: Emergency Protest against G20

Resistance Spreads across the Channel to France,
Beeeeeautiful!!!

NOW, lets get our shit together here in Aotearoa!

Lets get to work building projects, organisations, campaigns, fucking ANYTHING that reaches out and explains whats happening to the NZ-ers who will be looking for answers when their lives are turned upside down and their eyes pryed open when this so called 'crisis' hits Aotearoa.

No more of this identity based cliquey ghetto activism, no more academic socialist jingo getting thrown around the place when joe fisher and paykel loses their job and reaches out for answers, our time is coming and its up to us to engage with the people who need us to stand by their sides on their streets.

I can't fucking wait!

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1166991/300-protesters...

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I really don't need you to stand by my side.

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ZOMG! That's shocking. People attacking cops(Which is how that kicked off) And then attacking buildings and they get hurt. No surprize there. How about next time you try peaceful protest, instead of fucking over a bank?

Oh, wait, hypocrits. That's right, I forgot about that.

And the guy who died from a heart attack? The Cops where trying to help him at one point, and then came under fire from a lot of thrown bottles. Nice work to show how you care for your fellow man.

Get a grip, you tools. Mob mentalitly is never good.

Re: Re: Auckland: Emergency Protest against G20

please "get a grip" and learn to spell

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Please L2Grammer?

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Well aren't you guys great. On one hand you talk about fighting the 'class' war and then you attack a poster about their spelling and grammar. Which side of the fence are you guys sitting on or is that fence firmly up your arse?

Re: Re: Re: Re: Auckland: Emergency Protest against G20

Some random attacked my spelling, the Grammer was a Sass back at them.

But either way, the people here are pure gold, remember? They're all nice, friendly sorts. No one's done any Jail time for assult here! No one's bludged off any benefit and tried to justify it as 'Fucking the system' either!

Haw haw.

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you know what,you sound as intelligent as your spelling!

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And your grammer is totally kai-pai!

I'm kidding, douchebag. It's really bad. L2capital.

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Witnesses Statement: Death at G20

PRESS RELEASE

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
Various participants in the City of London demonstrations on April 1st have come forward as witnesses to the collapse of a man later identified by authorities as Ian Tomlinson. Four different university students witnessed the collapse of Mr. Tomlinson. "He stumbled towards us from the direction of police and protestors and collapsed," said Peter Apps. "I saw a demonstrator who was a first aider attend to the person who had collapsed. The man was late 40s, had tattoos on his hands, and was wearing a Millwall shirt."

While the first aider was helping the man, another demonstrator with a megaphone was calling the police over so that they could help.

Natalie Langford, a student at Queen Mary, said "there was a police charge. A lot of people ran in our direction. The woman giving first aid stood in the path of the crowd." The running people, seeing a guy on the ground, went around them.

Another demonstrator had already called 999 and was getting medical advice from the ambulance dispatcher. "Four police with two police medics came. They told her [the first aider] to 'move along'.", said Peter Apps. "Then they pushed her forcibly away from him. They refused to listen to her [the first aider] when she tried to explain his condition."

The first aider, who did not wish to be named, said "The police surrounded the collapsed man. I was standing with the person who'd called 999. The ambulance dispatcher wanted to talk to the police, the phone was being held out to them, but the police refused."

Another witness, Elias Stoakes, added "we didn't see them [the police] perform CPR."

Other people who had tried to stay with the collapsed man were also pushed away.

All of the witnesses deny the allegation that many missiles were thrown.

According to Peter Apps, "one bottle was thrown, but it didn't come close to the police. Nothing was thrown afterwards as other demonstrators told the person to stop. The person who threw the bottle probably didn't realize that someone was behind the ring of police." All the witnesses said that the demonstrators were concerned for the well-being of the collapsed man once they realized that there was an injured person.

Natalie Langford said "when the ambulance arrived the protestors got straight out of the way."

These witnesses are happy to give media statements.

They can be contacted through this press liasion email: g20witnesses [at] gmail [dot] com

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'All the witnesses said that the demonstrators were concerned for the well-being of the collapsed man once they realized that there was an injured person.

Of course, you ask the people who were starting to riot and everyone was really nice and they all had cookies for the police. In fact, that bank didn't get attacked at all either! It's all a lie spread by the government! ZOMG!

Re: Auckland: Emergency Protest against G20

is a bank a person?

how many bankers got attacked? many found the event funny.

how many protesters were injured? how many police were carrying weapons, had tanks, horses and tasers...? Yep state violence ok - non state protesting and property damage - evil.

good one

Re: Re: Auckland: Emergency Protest against G20

It was bloody hilarious.

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If you're asking me if a Bank is a Person, then you've got some mental issues you should go get checked out there, chief. Of course a bank's not a person. But it's not a very big step from destroying a bank to destroying people in the bank, even if it's by 'accident'.

And what, do you think the Cops should turn up with foul language and harsh words to stop people like you throwing shit through windows and hurling bottles around? If the cop's weren't there you all would've busted in to G20 and probably killed the Leaders of the World.

So think before you start babbling on about how unfair it was the Cops stopped you.

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Tanks?

Re: Auckland: Emergency Protest against G20

The Guardian obtained this footage of Ian Tomlinson at a G20 protest in London, shortly before he died. It shows Tomlinson, who was not part of the demonstration, being assaulted from behind and pushed to the ground by baton-wielding police Link to this video http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2009/apr/07/video-g20-police-assault

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He was totally on something. After the cops say 'Move forward' and give him a shove, he keeps trying to meander on slowly. WTF is with that. When a Cop or someone says Move, taps you on the leg with a baton and then shoves you you should have got your ass moving a long time before it got to that.

It looks like he was trying to be a cunt and do a Go slow. Not a cool thing to do when you have what's basically an angry mob floating around.

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no way you are so stupid to think that! Research the facts and try to think!

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All you have to do is watch the fucking tape, douche. You see he's fucking on something by the way he just kinda meanders away with cops behind him.