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Gaza Relief Gig 6 FEB 8:30 The Adelaide

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Gaza Relief Fundraiser Gig—6 FEB—
The Adelaide 8:30 pm

In the spirit of struggle and resistance
Wellington Palestine Group

Friday February 6, Waitangi Day, at The Adelaide, Adelaide Road

Door opens 8.30

Entry Minimum $5 - Maximum Personal choice

- In the spirit of Struggle and Resistance -

FUNDRAISER SHOW. ALL funds raised from this event go to the Wellington Palestine Group to help support the people of Gaza - brutalised after the most recent Israeli offensive murdering civilians, men, women, and children.

AUDIO:
Te Kupe [dynamic frontman of Upper Hutt Posse fame]
mr sterile Assembly [new line up]
Imon Starr [ Olmecha Supreme]
Adam Smith Assassination [punk punk punk]
Troy King [acoustic]
VIDEO:
special screening of Westbank, Palestine - Ngatahi-KnowTheLinks #5
KORERO:
Talks from members of October 15 Solidarity and the Wellington Palestine Group.

Comments

Re: Gaza Relief Gig 6 FEB 8:30 The Adelaide

cool but you need a cynical 'indie' 'band' to draw in all the radical dressers

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Even though Palastine's kicked it up again. Yeah, nice one there.

I think all the countries that stood by and watched this knew what the Palastininans were doing. Hence nothing was done. Me, I reckon Isreal should rock over the boarder and lay some more hurt on them.

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South African dock workers refuse to offload Israeli ship

Media Statement: Cosatu and PSC launch Week of Action for Palestine

-Embargoed until 11H00, 3rd February
Media Conference, Cosatu House, 3 February 2009
In a historic development for South Africa, South African dock workers have announced their determination not to offload a ship from Israel that is scheduled to dock in Durban on Sunday, 8 February 2009. This follows the decision by Cosatu to strengthen the campaign in South Africa for boycotts, divestment and sanctions against Apartheid Israel.

The pledge by Satawu (South African Transport and Allied Workers Union) members in Durban reflects the commitment by South African workers to refuse to support oppression and exploitation across the globe. Last year, Durban dock workers refused to offload a shipment of arms that had arrived from China and was destined for Zimbabwe. Now, says Satawu's General Secretary Randall Howard, the union's members are committing themselves not to handle Israeli goods.

Satawu's action on Sunday will be part of a proud history of worker resistance against apartheid. In 1963, just four years after the Anti-Apartheid Movement was formed, Danish dock workers refused to offload a ship with South African goods. When the ship docked in Sweden, Swedish workers followed suit. Dock workers in Liverpool and, later, in the San Francisco Bay Area also refused to offload South African goods. South Africans, and the South African working class in particular, will remain forever grateful to those workers who determinedly opposed apartheid and decided that they would support the anti-apartheid struggle with their actions.

This is the legacy and the tradition that South African dock workers have inherited, and it is a legacy they are determined to honour.

Last week, members of the Western Australian members of the Maritime Union of Australia resolved to support the campaign for boycotts, divestment and sanctions against Israel and have called for a boycott of all Israeli vessels and all vessels bearing goods arriving from or going to Israel.
Cosatu, the PSC and many other organisations salute the principled position taken by these workers.

In celebration of the actions of Satawu members with regard to the ship from Israel, and in pursuance of the campaign for boycotts, divestment and sanctions against Israel, and our call on the South African government to sever diplomatic and trade relations with Israel, this coalition of organisations has declared a week of action beginning on Friday, 6 February 2009. These actions follow marches and rallies held throughout the country over the past month involving tens of thousands of South Africans in all provinces.

Activities that have already been confirmed for this week will include:
· Friday, 6 February: A protest outside the offices of the South African Zionist Federation and the South African Jewish Board of Deputies, 2 Elray Street, Raedene, off Louis Botha. Both these organisations unquestioningly supported the recent Israeli attacks against Gaza, and supported the massacre of civilians and the attacks on schools, mosques, ambulances, and UN refugee centres. Protestors will be addressed by, among others, Satawu General Secretary Randall Howard, and ex-Minister Ronnie Kasrils. Protest starts at 14:00.

· Friday, 6 February: A picket outside parliament in Cape Town. Cosatu members and solidarity activists will be joined by a number of members of parliament. Picket starts at 09:30.

· Friday, 6 February: A mass rally in Actonville, Benoni, at the Buzme Adab Hall. The rally will be addressed by, among others, Cosatu General Secretary Zwelinzima Vavi, South African Council of Churches General Secretary Eddie Makue, ex-Minister Ronnie Kasrils and Salim Vally from the PSC. Rally starts at 19:30.

· Sunday, 8 February: A protest at the Durban Harbour Mouth, off Victoria Embankment. Protestors will be addressed by, among others, Cosatu President Sdumo Dlamini. Protest starts at 10:00.

· Sunday 8 February: A mass rally in Cape Town at Vygieskraal Rugby Stadium. The rally will be addressed by, among others, Cosatu General Secretary Zwelinzima Vavi, and Allan Boesak. Rally starts at 14:30.

Cosatu and the PSC will inform members of the media of other activities as details are confirmed.
For further information contact:
Patrick Craven (Cosatu spokesperson)
Bongani Masuku (Cosatu international Relations officer)
Melissa Hole (PSC)
Na'eem Jeenah (PSC)
Salim Vally (PSC)

Re: Gaza Relief Gig 6 FEB 8:30 The Adelaide

"I think all the countries that stood by and watched this knew what the Palastininans were doing. Me, I reckon Isreal should rock over the boarder and lay some more hurt on them."

The thing is Kyle Chapman, is that you are an idiot, a fool, and a child.

Re: Re: Gaza Relief Gig 6 FEB 8:30 The Adelaide

nah. he's a full-grown adult, sadly.

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Annnd I'm not Kyle Chapman. At the end of the day it was summed up with some other dudes' post. Have a read through the stuff you have here. He talked about how Israel chooses Israel because the rest of the world is fine with people popping over her border and blowing themselves up.

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"Israel chooses Israel"
please explain your thinking (if any).

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Well, the world at large doesn't stick up for Israel. They've been suffering suicide bombings every day, but it doesn't make the news out side of there because it's become such a common thing.

They've had all the countries try and fight them, and you know as well as I that if the countries around Israel won their Wars, then the Jews would have been slaughtered, not one left alive. Because that's how the other middle-eastern countries make war.

So basically, Israel's said 'Right, I'm sick of this bullshit, quit it.' And stomped over and laid waste to her enemies. Yes, they hit schools, Red cross buildings, etc. But that's what the Hamas movement wanted. If you set up a rocket launcher or a HQ inside/near a humanatarin building, and said building gets destroyed, you can go to the world and say 'HEY! LOOK WHAT THESE BAD PEOPLE DID! SHOT AT SCHOOLS!'

But they don't admit to hiding in said schools. That's the thing. The thing that get's to me about this place is that everyone's always anti governement. As soon as a State or nation does something, if it's allied to the west, it's bad and wrong. No one complains about the Middle-eastern women being stoned, or Christains being murdered under Islamic law(Forgot the actual name) For being heathens.

So yeah. Basically, Israel had to defend herself. And the only way to do that, was to push outwards.

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"Basically, Israel had to defend herself. And the only way to do that, was to push outwards."
You mean just like Nazi Germany did?

Re: Re: Gaza Relief Gig 6 FEB 8:30 The Adelaide

Actually, no. Nazi Germany did a War of agression because it wanted everything. It wasnt' getting attacked by its neighbhors daily.

Would you like another turn?

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I think what is so sad really is the use of experimental weapons, and BANNED weapons such as white phosphorus, Israel has violated far more UN resolutions the Iraq ever did, not only that but they appear to now be a rouge nation... with nukes, they honestly scare me to death with their trigger happy, careless and outright inhumane treatment of the Palestinians, they really act like nazis, i think they have already forgotten what happend in Germany during the 1940's.

The settlers are disgusting sick pigs with no regard for the well being of the people who's land they have stolen, the Zionist are the new Nazi's, they overreact to any small provocation (see the last Lebanon war) and have between 200-400 nukes according to Hans Blix.

These idiots are going to destroy the world:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ykmv7s-Q0J8

Here is SOME of the evidence of their use of illegal weapons:
http://thecurrentaffairs.com/index.php/in-pictures-israel-brutal-attack-...

Now do not consider me an anti-Semite, it is not anti-semitic to criticize the state of Israel, and furthermore there are many jews opposed to the disgusting behavior exhibited by the animals that are committing these atrocities.

I really hope the world awakens to the cruel and barbaric nature of their actions, uprooting olive trees, building walls, and demolishing houses...

and they wonder why they get attacked by their neighbors, if you ask me IDF stands for Ignorant Dumb Fucks.

Alright... I've vented my spleen.

Time to chillllll ouuuuuut.

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they wonder why they get attacked by their neighbors,

They were getting attacked before they fired back, just so you know.

And of course Suicide Bombers is okay? Using that logic why hasn't Palastine been brought up on killing civ's and Warcrimes?

So.. You can have another turn too, if you want.

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The settlers sure have a way of provoking violence, I think you should see "The Iron Wall", or "palestine is still the issue".

So you defend their use of White Phosphorus on a UN school ? Blowing up Red Cross ambulances and uprooting olive trees ?

The photo's in the link in my last post.. which was released by UN officials show that they were blatantly attacking civilians. From both the ground and the air.

You don't seem to understand the irony of what the IDF is doing. It is exactly the same as what happened to Jews in Nazi Germany, they often say "Never Forget!".

Well, I think they have forgotten.

You are like the blind people who thought hitler was a good idea at the time... oh the irony kills me.

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So you defend their use of White Phosphorus on a UN school ? Blowing up Red Cross ambulances and uprooting olive trees ?

In Veitnam they destroyed trees to stop people hiding behind them.

Red Cross Ambulances have already been pointed out in one of the earlier threads.. They've been stopped and checked and alot of them are full of people with bombs. Because they know that 'Stopping Red Cross is bad, so why would people do it?' They were using them to smuggle weapons around the country.

Also, you'll notice that Hamas has a tendancy to set their rockets/bases up in schools/hospitals that sort of thing, so when people attack it they can sit there and go 'LOOK WORLD! THEY ATTACKED A PLACE WHERE PEOPLE GO TO LEARN AND HEAL!'

But they don't mention the half a dozen leaders sitting around joking about it, sitting in said hospitals. Face it, Hamas doesn't fight using stand up tactics. They hide in the civ population. And that's been well documented.

You're the sort of person who's rooting for the people cutting off heads, instead of hoping they get back safely. Not everything relates to the Nazi's, man. You'll note that Starlin was alot worse than Hitler. But Starlin helped the 'Good guys' win WW2, so everyone just STFU's about it.

But hey, have another spin their chief.

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"In Veitnam they destroyed trees to stop people hiding behind them. "

WTF ? dude, they are growing olives to make their living, they dont use them as a sniper post. That cracks me up. If you watch some of the videos of these brutes actually pulling out the trees, you will see there is little cover those things would provide for a sniper.

You really think the UN is going to let militants in the compound which blatantly has white phosphorus being fired on it ?

Stalin was a monster so was Hitler, and so is the current administration of Israel.

I certainly dont have all the facts on the ground but the nature of a guerrilla war ends up harming the civs alot more, but what are their options... set up a new HQ with a bulls eye on it ?

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You're the sort of person who's rooting for the people cutting off heads, instead of hoping they get back safely.
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Man, I am rooting for the people who want to live peacefully with their neighbors, I am against totalitarian, fascists leadership especially against racists assholes who believe they have the right to steal land and enforce their will on their victims.

Sounds like you are the guy who roots for people who fire illegal weapons onto civilian populations read up on DIME weapons.. the latest gift from the IDF to the civilians of Palestine

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Not everything relates to the Nazi's, man. You'll note that Starlin was alot worse than Hitler. But Starlin helped the 'Good guys' win WW2, so everyone just STFU's about it.
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Of course not everything relates to the Nazis, but from the propaganda i've been raised on it is an era firmly etched in my mind, so when I see atrocities akin to what happend in that time, I immediately see the similarities.

Stalin was not so different from Hitler for sure, it was hardcore fascism vs hardcore communisim, but they both oppressed people, killed without remorse, had secret police, and had little tolerance for free speech. Ultimately they were the same thing...

The same thing I see going on with this crazy rouge nation with nukes, cheerfully using chemical and experimental weapons on civilians, they even get their children to sign the missiles being fired at the enemies.

This sadly is a very complex situation, and their are faults on both sides, but it must be understood how and why these people despise each other.

For example how would you like it if you were forced from your home, from which your family had lived generations, for the benefit of some other race who had not lived their for thousands of years ?

AND to top it off, you had nothing to do with the holocaust in the first place ? Wouldnt it make sense if they had been given land in Germany, the country from which those atrocities were committed ?

I would encourage you to watch The Iron Wall, I was surprised to see how many Israelis were opposed to the actions taken by their govt.

Have another "spin"... "chief".. I am neither spinning, nor a chief. But I do appreciate the opportunity to exchange ideas with people of different mindsets.

- meh

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I Lol'd hard.

'You really think the UN is going to let militants in the compound which blatantly has white phosphorus being fired on it ?'

-- The UN has no real power there. You realize mostly they're told to pull back and not get involved, right?

Stalin was a monster so was Hitler, and so is the current administration of Israel.

-- Yet Hamas is fluffy bunnies? You realize these people have been attacking Israel since they came into power, right? Not just Rockets. As I've said, Suicide bombers have constantly been jumping the boarder. But that's okay with you, I guess? It's okay that people have been blowing themselves up and killing Israelies on a daily basies.

I certainly dont have all the facts on the ground but the nature of a guerrilla war ends up harming the civs alot more, but what are their options... set up a new HQ with a bulls eye on it

--- So it's okay to take over a hospital and use it to plan attacks? Wow, I like the way you think! Fuck it, let's just human shields while we're at it!

...

Oh, wait. Hamas already does that one. But once again, that's all good with you too, right?

I root for the killing of crazy people who like to hide behind other people. If The Palastinains wanted Hamas out, then they could, what do you protesters call it.. 'Rise up' and 'Fight' But they don't. They're happliy letting people with guns grab them and push them towards the Israelies, while the people behind them are blazing away.

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I never said Hamas were fluffy bunnies, they, like the isralies need to reflect on their actions. You are missing the point, further did you even look at the photos I mentioned in regards to the UN School being bombed ?

Have you ever wondered what an act of desperation it must take for people to resort to suicide bombings ? They are poorly armed and killing themselves to inflict what they can against a highly trained, well funded, heavily armed adversary.

You seem to be missing the point entirely of who I am and the statements I am making.

If Hamas is taking over hospitals and further endagering the civs there, then that is immensley stupid of them. The unfortnate nature of guerrilla war is that millitants have little choice but to hide in urban areas, any obvious military installations will be rendered ash.

--- So it's okay to take over a hospital and use it to plan attacks? Wow, I like the way you think! Fuck it, let's just human shields while we're at it!

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Oh, wait. Hamas already does that one. But once again, that's all good with you too, right?

Israel does that too:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2003/jan/02/israel1
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> You realize these people have been attacking >Israel since they came into power, right?

like i said in my last post... what would you do if you were forcibly removed from your home, watched it get bulldozed, had your farmland taken from you, at times entire neighborhoods have been flattend.

-- I root for the killing of crazy people who like to hide behind other people

Hmm, so you think the Jenin massacre was a good thing ? They were not crazy, nor hiding, just civs slaughtered... indeed some of the WORST - most disgusting footage I have seen came from that event. I think that was a turning point for me on my opinion of Israel.

Like I said I dont root for the killing of anybody, when I learned about the Nazi concentration camps I felt really bad for their victims, and they have, and still have my sympathy for their plight.

Now I see it being done to another group of people, and they have my sympathy because they are simply overwhelmed by a regime who has no remorse for the very violent actions they make against them.

If the tables were turned and it was Israelies instead of the Palestinians they would have my sympathy I am not racist, I have an intense dislike for mindless violence and both sides need to stop before something really stupid like nukes incinerate the region.

You do admit then you support the use of banned, illegal, experimental weapons, along with the theft of land and blatant disregard for humanity ?

I do not support violence, and therefore I do not support Hamas, but I CAN put myself in their shoes and understand how they react the way they do. many sad and stupid things are happening on both sides.

Do you rememer.. the famous slogans "Never again" and "Never Forget"... it IS happening again... and they HAVE forgotten... It is a very very sad situation.

We will have to agree to disagree, I totally think Israel is in the wrong here, you seem to support violence and war crimes. You are entitled to your own opinions and thoughts.

You remind me of the people in this clip:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FABqq_jjRRo

- meh

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They are poorly armed and killing themselves to inflict what they can against a highly trained, well funded, heavily armed adversary.

-- Clearly you do not understand the brainwashing that goes into making a suicide bomber. These people don't just go 'Right, I've had enough of this, I'm going to some how get my hands on a bunch of explosives in my little refugee camp and toddle over the boarder and explode myself!'

That's a very, very stupid view to take on Suicide bombers. These people are fanatics. They've been brainwashed so hard that their own survival instincts that everyone's born with is over-ridden for the cause of religion. And let's face it, that's what it's about. They're waging a 'Holy War' against the Jews, because the Jews are infidels. Yes, they're fighting for the land -- But you'll find that that's secondary.

If fighting for their homes and land was the first and foremost on their mind, then why are they all Islamic? The majority of the groups who use such tactics are a perverted form of Islam. Suicide bombers are wrong. And they've been doing it since the start, that's the point that doesn't seem to be sinking in with you there.

what would you do if you were forcibly removed from your home, watched it get bulldozed, had your farmland taken from you, at times entire neighborhoods have been flattend.

-- Well, I guess I'd team up with all the nations around the people who did that and lead a War that if we won, we'd go in and slaughter every man, woman and child who took my home and bulldozed it. Oh, wait a minute, that sounds familliar.. That's exactly what they did! Of course the notion of resettling elsewhere never came through anyone's mind, did it?

I have an intense dislike for mindless violence and both sides need to stop...

--- That's okay, but let's all Root for Palastine. Instead of anyone saying it's pointless, everyone's shouting 'Viva La Palastine!' Nice work staying in the middle there.

You do admit then you support the use of banned, illegal, experimental weapons, along with the theft of land and blatant disregard for humanity

Nothing wrong with Experimental weapons, and I'm pretty sure the Suicide Bombers/Palastine targeting civillians is fair. Want to try that one again?

I do not support violence, and therefore I do not support Hamas, but I CAN put myself in their shoes and understand how they react the way they do.

--- As I said. Palastine's hate for Israel is more race-retated than anything else.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g8zmsrncSBA&amp;feature=related <------- I take it you're all for this then?

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-- Clearly you do not understand the brainwashing that goes into making a suicide bomber. These people don't just go 'Right, I've had enough of this, I'm going to some how get my hands on a bunch of explosives in my little refugee camp and toddle over the boarder and explode myself!'

If the desire to take revenge did not exists neither would the suicide bombers, or indeed any attacks ever.

-- Well, I guess I'd team up with all the nations around the people who did that and lead a War that if we won, we'd go in and slaughter every man, woman and child who took my home and bulldozed it. Oh, wait a minute, that sounds familliar.. That's exactly what they did! Of course the notion of resettling elsewhere never came through anyone's mind, did it?

I could say the same thing about Israel.. They did team up with all the other nations, and slaugher men, women and children, why the hell didn't they settle somewhere else, but no, lets just displace people from their land who've lived there for 1000s of years. They are wiping Palestine off the map, indeed I tried finding it on a world map the other day.. no such place. Gaza.. West bank... but no actual "Palestine".

-- Nothing wrong with Experimental weapons, and I'm pretty sure the Suicide Bombers/Palastine targeting civillians is fair. Want to try that one again?

Wow, you would have loved what the Nazi scientist were doing then, I cannot believe you actually think white phosphorous is OK. I do not advocate the use of violence. Dropping a conventional bomb on civs, or a suicide bomber, I fail to see the difference other than the desperation and expensive use of human life as a weapon. Dead is dead. But at least there is no Depleted Uranium or other strange chemical weapons being used that carries on the carnage. Lebanon is still mopping up 1000's of cluster bombs.

I had to pick my jaw up from the floor after reading that last comment you made.

--- That's okay, but let's all Root for Palastine. Instead of anyone saying it's pointless, everyone's shouting 'Viva La Palastine!' Nice work staying in the middle there.

The Palestinians are the ones being oppressed, out gunned, imprisoned, beaten, and subjected to the same treatment the Nazis subjected to their victims. Therefore my sympathy is with them.

--- As I said. Palastine's hate for Israel is more race-retated than anything else.

Also Israel's hatred of the Palestinians is more race/religion related than anything else:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZEvCRdefsMs

-- www.youtube.com/watch <------- I take it you're all for this then?

Wow, thanks for posting that, totally crazy, what happened that would instill such hatred... seriously that is so messed up, taking away childhood innocence like that.

http://nuhairi.net/nucleus/index.php?itemid=57

I doubt we will ever see peace in that region, not with that level of militancy and hatred brewing. How very sad.

If the UN really had balls, Israel would have sanctions on them for the numerous UN Resolutions they are violating -- and war crimes they are committing, also the US would have sanctions against them for supplying them with all their weapons... and the invasion of Iraq...

Your support for experimental weapons completely staggers me, you obviously have immense regard for human life, do you even KNOW what Depleted Uranium does.. and will continue to do for 1000's of years.

Oh.. but its okay, they are using those weapons on people you hate.

- Meh

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'take revenge did not exists neither would the suicide bombers'

No. It's a cheap way to attack people, and considering the religion that supports it says that 'If you die a Martyr you'll be rewarded in the afterlife,' Then of course people use it.

'displace people from their land who've lived there for 1000s of years. '

-- I think the Israelies were there first. Natives and all that. OH WAIT! That doesn't count over there, does it?

The Palestinians are the ones being oppressed, out gunned, imprisoned, beaten, and subjected to the same treatment the Nazis subjected to their victims.

--- The Nazi's weren't being attacked on a daily baises by people though.

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Wow, thanks for posting that, totally crazy, what happened that would instill such hatred... seriously that is so messed up, taking away childhood innocence like that.'

-- There's a difference between writing on a bomb, and TRAINING YOUR CHILDREN TO BE KILLERS. What are you, retarded? I hope you realize just how weak that point was. Really. Grasp at straws much?

'f the UN really had balls, Israel would have sanctions on them for the numerous UN Resolutions they are violating -- and war crimes they are committing, also the US would have sanctions against them for supplying them with all their weapons... and the invasion of Iraq...

Your support for experimental weapons completely staggers me, you obviously have immense regard for human life,'

Israel had sanctions on The Palastinians. But everyone threw their toys about that. Because of course Israel is ment to share with the people who've been blowing themselves up and purposly targeting civillians since Israel was there. And clearly, you do not understand that life is cheap over there.

It sounds bad, but it's true. People /blow themselves up to kill more people/. Now I don't know about you, but that doesn't sound like the side you're on value humans' lives at all. Or maybe they've got some sort of cost worked out. 'If you kill 5 Dirty Jew dogs, then you've reached your quota!' See, I wouldn't know.

And Experimental weapons gave us the Painbeam. Which to me, is a wonderful idea.

'those weapons on people you hate. '

No. I don't 'hate' them. I hate what they stand for, and the fact fucktards like yourself and all the people here support them, even though they'd happily murder any Jew civilians they get their hands on. In fact, anyone. They'd happily kill me, if someone said 'Hey, you wanna kill that white balding guy over there? Nothing bad would happen to you!' I reckon 9 times out of 10 they'd go 'Yeap, sweet as!' But that's something you don't understand, either.

It's okay. Cheer on the people that have already shown, well before Israel started it's offensive, that they don't value childrens' lives, or women's, or mens. Cheer on the people who destroy buses, and purposly aim for pure civilian targets, innocents.

I hope you sleep well at night knowing that you support possibly the worse kind of evil there is.

(PS: What the hell is the point with everyone here comparing everything they don't like to Nazis? I mean, I don't see Israel with Deathcamps, systimatically exterminating the Palastinians. Grow up. Not everything is Nazi related. Hell, people died over in Greece because they were rioting about a kid who got shot. Nice way t o get your point across, burn and hurt other people who had nothing to do with it.)

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I just wanted to say, after all those 'lovely' posts above... that the gig at the Adelaide was awesome. Most of us were exhausted but the bands were wicked, most political rants I've heard at a Waitangi gig for years. Big ups to the organisers! Can't wait for the bigger, better, earlier gig next year, hint, hint.

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i bet your supporting hamas as well as their regular use of children as human shields as well you gullible "leftie" hypocrites.